Unrealistic summer transfer wankfest III

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Felwin wrote: 1 month ago
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Felwin wrote: 1 month ago

If it's the gossip column, ignore it. Any time we're linked to wantaways from big clubs you can bet your house on it being agents drumming up a market.
Yup, we're linked with new midfielders each week.

We are very strongly linked with making a move for Anderson but don't think we'd be able to afford what Forest will demand for him and he might also prefer City.

I'd rather we went for 2 decent midfielders over one blockbuster signing.
Agree, we're all desperate for us to be sensible. But Ando looks excellent. There are shades of Robbo, Keano and Scholes to his game - he looks like a United midfielder should look.

But times have changed and if he wants to set up his family for several generations with creative offshore accounting, then let him. Everyone has their priorities.
If elliot Anderson, at 23, and likely earning 10m a year even if he signed for us, cant turn that into generational wealth, he needs to hire better financial advisors!
I agree, but the earnings at City involve (allegedly) assets and anonymous investments in shell companies in the UAE. 10m is fish food compared to the earnings when you start playing that game.
Yeah. Bottom line is why should he take a paycut to join anyone else - even if it's just a million more. Unless he's specifically doing something illegal by accepting such pay, he has no risk.
But I think this is only illegal from FFP perspective, which would apply only to the club. He's probably in the clear.
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dozer wrote: 1 month ago Yeah. Bottom line is why should he take a paycut to join anyone else - even if it's just a million more. Unless he's specifically doing something illegal by accepting such pay, he has no risk.
But I think this is only illegal from FFP perspective, which would apply only to the club. He's probably in the clear.
Aye, that's how they get you. The players are probably not doing anything illegal or at least not against league rules.

What we can always leverage is our history, the meaning behind it, give him the 7, let Robbo have a word (being a fellow geordie), let Bruno have a word, offer him as much as the budget allows, If that doesn't work, then we've done all we can. That said, we don't want to be grovelling after a player, it should be done from a position of strength - use what makes United unique and move on if the player isn't serious.
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Felwin wrote: 1 month ago
dozer wrote: 1 month ago Yeah. Bottom line is why should he take a paycut to join anyone else - even if it's just a million more. Unless he's specifically doing something illegal by accepting such pay, he has no risk.
But I think this is only illegal from FFP perspective, which would apply only to the club. He's probably in the clear.
Aye, that's how they get you. The players are probably not doing anything illegal or at least not against league rules.

What we can always leverage is our history, the meaning behind it, give him the 7, let Robbo have a word (being a fellow geordie), let Bruno have a word, offer him as much as the budget allows, If that doesn't work, then we've done all we can. That said, we don't want to be grovelling after a player, it should be done from a position of strength - use what makes United unique and move on if the player isn't serious.
Even for the same pay, City are a better run club. It offers more stability and better prospects of winning titles and the big cups. Even if Pep goes, they seem to have things in order. They were well run, well before Pep. City will also throw you out if they don't fancy you - that's not a bad thing. You get to play elsewhere regularly and resurrect your career.
At United, the player can expect to work under many managers and some may not fancy you or play you out of position affecting your career.
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dozer wrote: 1 month ago Even for the same pay, City are a better run club. It offers more stability and better prospects of winning titles and the big cups. Even if Pep goes, they seem to have things in order. They were well run, well before Pep. City will also throw you out if they don't fancy you - that's not a bad thing. You get to play elsewhere regularly and resurrect your career.
Annoyingly dispassionate, but it will be how certain people look at it. Ignore the cheating, corruption and the shadow hanging over City and go simply off their prospects plus the chances of winning titles. Hate it that that's the reality, but can't deny it.
dozer wrote: 1 month ago At United, the player can expect to work under many managers and some may not fancy you or play you out of position affecting your career.
I do disagree with this though. I think it's obvious to the rest of the football world that something has changed at United. It's still early days, but I don't think our managerial churn will be as high over the next ten years. Players will virtually always outlast managers and it was the same at City before Pep - half of Pellegrini's players were gone within a year of Pep starting. It's the drastic swings from attacking cunt to defensive cunt that has royally fucked our squad.
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Anderson looks on his way to City, which is a shame.

We could do worse than see if Jimmy wants to come home. I’ve been really impressed with him this season.
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fat maradona wrote: 1 month ago Anderson looks on his way to City, which is a shame.

We could do worse than see if Jimmy wants to come home. I’ve been really impressed with him this season.
My gut says it wouldn't work out with Garner. Plus Everton would probably ask for silly money because they can.
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Would be a shame for Anderson to prematurely end his career but if loan spells at West Ham and Everton after playing 13 games in a season for city are career aspirations, who are we to stand in his way?
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nineteenninetynine wrote: 1 month ago Would be a shame for Anderson to prematurely end his career but if loan spells at West Ham and Everton after playing 13 games in a season for city are career aspirations, who are we to stand in his way?
:))

I think he's better than that though. Genuinely think they see him as Rodri's long-term replacement.

If I was his agent though, I'd be pushing City on how long they think Pep is staying because he threatens to quit every 5 minutes. And much bigger than that, I'd be pushing them for an idea on the punishment they'll receive for cheating. Will it be a fine (i.e. a non-punishment) or will Anderson possibly have to consider playing in League 1/2 for a few seasons?
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Felwin wrote: 1 month ago
nineteenninetynine wrote: 1 month ago Would be a shame for Anderson to prematurely end his career but if loan spells at West Ham and Everton after playing 13 games in a season for city are career aspirations, who are we to stand in his way?
:))

I think he's better than that though. Genuinely think they see him as Rodri's long-term replacement.

If I was his agent though, I'd be pushing City on how long they think Pep is staying because he threatens to quit every 5 minutes. And much bigger than that, I'd be pushing them for an idea on the punishment they'll receive for cheating. Will it be a fine (i.e. a non-punishment) or will Anderson possibly have to consider playing in League 1/2 for a few seasons?

Wasn’t that supposed to be Nico Gonzalez who they spent £60m+ on, who they’re about to offload and then wasn’t that supposed to be Tijani Reijnders who they spent £45m+ on last summer, who cannot get a game and will probably be out this summer? They’re potentially then doing £100m+ on Anderson and who is to say that he’ll be the answer this time?

Agents are unscrupulous and lack morals so many will probably just play clubs off against each other but a decent one surely puts our case forward to Anderson. Casemiro goes this summer, we’ve got a lot of extra games next year with the Champions League and without massive squad depth, you’re guaranteed 35+ games next season barring an injury. And that’s before the uncertainty of whether The FA ever get round to punting them into non-league football.
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nineteenninetynine wrote: 1 month ago
Felwin wrote: 1 month ago
nineteenninetynine wrote: 1 month ago Would be a shame for Anderson to prematurely end his career but if loan spells at West Ham and Everton after playing 13 games in a season for city are career aspirations, who are we to stand in his way?
:))

I think he's better than that though. Genuinely think they see him as Rodri's long-term replacement.

If I was his agent though, I'd be pushing City on how long they think Pep is staying because he threatens to quit every 5 minutes. And much bigger than that, I'd be pushing them for an idea on the punishment they'll receive for cheating. Will it be a fine (i.e. a non-punishment) or will Anderson possibly have to consider playing in League 1/2 for a few seasons?

Wasn’t that supposed to be Nico Gonzalez who they spent £60m+ on, who they’re about to offload and then wasn’t that supposed to be Tijani Reijnders who they spent £45m+ on last summer, who cannot get a game and will probably be out this summer? They’re potentially then doing £100m+ on Anderson and who is to say that he’ll be the answer this time?
Their level of spending is ridiculous. It's obvious from the outside that they can't afford it. I don't think any club can.

They're still signing all of the best players whenever they want, for whatever it costs, and then figuring out the finances later by hiding money, moving money etc. They'll just be hiding it better.

It's not even the amount of money, it's how quickly they can replace players. Pep gives em a season. After that, they're out. Normal clubs have to hold on to them for years before getting rid.

Also how City can sign 3/4 top players in one window, even in January. No one else can do that, not so consistently, year after year.

Chelsea have competed with them and face financial meltdown after just 3 years. City, miraculously, are stronger than ever.

I know we all know this but it's just fucking glaring.
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