ChatGPT and AI: Are we all about to die?

[swampash]

Whether he’s sitting on a horse, high or otherwise, I think swampy-the-luddite is simply exaggerating to make a wider point about AI and IP infringement.

Legally, when a human brain produces an original piece of work, it is that brain’s intellectual property. Consequently, only the creator of that work, or someone who permission, can legally use it.

As Chat GPT uses content previously generated by others, an AI user infringes someone else’s intellectual property if he or she publishes a response that resembles or mimics that existing work. To avoid this the AI user needs explicit permission from the owner of the IP.
Not asking for such permission can have serious legal consequences. It can result in significant penalties including fines and damages.

This is a burning issue at the moment in the music industry.

As for swampy-the-luddite, the courteous thing to have done would have been to ask him if it was okay to give chatgpt access to his posts in order to mimic him.

[FuB]

Whether he’s sitting on a horse, high or otherwise, I think swampy-the-luddite is simply exaggerating to make a wider point about AI and IP infringement.

Legally, when a human brain produces an original piece of work, it is that brain’s intellectual property. Consequently, only the creator of that work, or someone who permission, can legally use it.

As Chat GPT uses content previously generated by others, an AI user infringes someone else’s intellectual property if he or she publishes a response that resembles or mimics that existing work. To avoid this the AI user needs explicit permission from the owner of the IP.
Not asking for such permission can have serious legal consequences. It can result in significant penalties including fines and damages.

This is a burning issue at the moment in the music industry.

As for swampy-the-luddite, the courteous thing to have done would have been to ask him if it was okay to give chatgpt access to his posts in order to mimic him.

In what way do you think I "[gave] chatgpt access to [your] posts"? The whole fucking world has access to your posts, and mine and everyone else's. As i stated, it's a public forum.

I'm well aware of the IP claims against AI companies at present and that's why I made a point of my intention to parody (and not very successfully, let's be fair) without commercial interests. If you have a beef with OpenAI making a dollar out of you then i'll look forward to reading about your legal action against them. I'll get the popcorn...

[swampash]

Whether he’s sitting on a horse, high or otherwise, I think swampy-the-luddite is simply exaggerating to make a wider point about AI and IP infringement.

Legally, when a human brain produces an original piece of work, it is that brain’s intellectual property. Consequently, only the creator of that work, or someone who permission, can legally use it.

As Chat GPT uses content previously generated by others, an AI user infringes someone else’s intellectual property if he or she publishes a response that resembles or mimics that existing work. To avoid this the AI user needs explicit permission from the owner of the IP.
Not asking for such permission can have serious legal consequences. It can result in significant penalties including fines and damages.

This is a burning issue at the moment in the music industry.

As for swampy-the-luddite, the courteous thing to have done would have been to ask him if it was okay to give chatgpt access to his posts in order to mimic him.

In what way do you think I "[gave] chatgpt access to [your] posts"? The whole fucking world has access to your posts, and mine and everyone else's. As i stated, it's a public forum.

I'm well aware of the IP claims against AI companies at present and that's why I made a point of my intention to parody (and not very successfully, let's be fair) without commercial interests. If you have a beef with OpenAI making a dollar out of you then i'll look forward to reading about your legal action against them. I'll get the popcorn...

You’re in danger of being overly defensive Fuß. The chatgbt software said it would need to access my posts in order to answer your request, and presumably you allowed it to? See below.

swampash


ChatGPT said:
I can help craft a reply in the style of “swampash,” but I’ll need to see the content of post ID 193368 first. Could you please paste the text of that post here? Once I’ve got it, I’ll compose a tailored response that matches swampash’s tone and style.

[FuB]

Whether he’s sitting on a horse, high or otherwise, I think swampy-the-luddite is simply exaggerating to make a wider point about AI and IP infringement.

Legally, when a human brain produces an original piece of work, it is that brain’s intellectual property. Consequently, only the creator of that work, or someone who permission, can legally use it.

As Chat GPT uses content previously generated by others, an AI user infringes someone else’s intellectual property if he or she publishes a response that resembles or mimics that existing work. To avoid this the AI user needs explicit permission from the owner of the IP.
Not asking for such permission can have serious legal consequences. It can result in significant penalties including fines and damages.

This is a burning issue at the moment in the music industry.

As for swampy-the-luddite, the courteous thing to have done would have been to ask him if it was okay to give chatgpt access to his posts in order to mimic him.

In what way do you think I "[gave] chatgpt access to [your] posts"? The whole fucking world has access to your posts, and mine and everyone else's. As i stated, it's a public forum.

I'm well aware of the IP claims against AI companies at present and that's why I made a point of my intention to parody (and not very successfully, let's be fair) without commercial interests. If you have a beef with OpenAI making a dollar out of you then i'll look forward to reading about your legal action against them. I'll get the popcorn...

You’re in danger of being overly defensive Fuß. The chatgbt software said it would need to access my posts in order to answer your request, and presumably you allowed it to? See below.

swampash


ChatGPT said:
I can help craft a reply in the style of “swampash,” but I’ll need to see the content of post ID 193368 first. Could you please paste the text of that post here? Once I’ve got it, I’ll compose a tailored response that matches swampash’s tone and style.

Fuck's sake...

Do you remember when you - hilariously - thought you might "pull a dozer" on me and pasted a link to a post on this forum? Well, have a look back at that post of yours and see if you can see any parallels to the bit that comes after the bit of my chatGPT conversation that you've pasted above.

I'll help you out:

Sources
You said:
here is a link to that post viewtopic.php?p=193368#p193368

Do you see that? That's giving chatGPT a standard internet link to a post on this forum. I didn't "past the text of that post here" as requested by chatGPT because I knew i shouldn't need to and, instead, i gave it a URL to browse to.... and, right, get this! chatGPT is connected to this thing called the "internet" which - and this'll blow your mind - is like loads of computers all connected together so they can see each other. Amazing i know. Almost like something out of a sci fi novel, innit?

Could it possibly be that this newfangled AI stuff could, wait for it, browse the internet and look at other websites? who'd have thought?!

Perhaps, as a change from being overly-sceptical of technology and deciding you don't like the cut of its gib so you'll criticise and avoid it, you could go and investigate its capabilities for yourself instead of making me have to go through this tedious process of explaining simple shit to you?

[swampash]

Incidentally, you were quite right about the poor quality of the chatgbt attempt to mimic me, which rather validates my decision not to waste time with it.

[swampash]

Whether he’s sitting on a horse, high or otherwise, I think swampy-the-luddite is simply exaggerating to make a wider point about AI and IP infringement.

Legally, when a human brain produces an original piece of work, it is that brain’s intellectual property. Consequently, only the creator of that work, or someone who permission, can legally use it.

As Chat GPT uses content previously generated by others, an AI user infringes someone else’s intellectual property if he or she publishes a response that resembles or mimics that existing work. To avoid this the AI user needs explicit permission from the owner of the IP.
Not asking for such permission can have serious legal consequences. It can result in significant penalties including fines and damages.

This is a burning issue at the moment in the music industry.

As for swampy-the-luddite, the courteous thing to have done would have been to ask him if it was okay to give chatgpt access to his posts in order to mimic him.

In what way do you think I "[gave] chatgpt access to [your] posts"? The whole fucking world has access to your posts, and mine and everyone else's. As i stated, it's a public forum.

I'm well aware of the IP claims against AI companies at present and that's why I made a point of my intention to parody (and not very successfully, let's be fair) without commercial interests. If you have a beef with OpenAI making a dollar out of you then i'll look forward to reading about your legal action against them. I'll get the popcorn...

You’re in danger of being overly defensive Fuß. The chatgbt software said it would need to access my posts in order to answer your request, and presumably you allowed it to? See below.

swampash


ChatGPT said:
I can help craft a reply in the style of “swampash,” but I’ll need to see the content of post ID 193368 first. Could you please paste the text of that post here? Once I’ve got it, I’ll compose a tailored response that matches swampash’s tone and style.

Fuck's sake...

Do you remember when you - hilariously - thought you might "pull a dozer" on me and pasted a link to a post on this forum? Well, have a look back at that post of yours and see if you can see any parallels to the bit that comes after the bit of my chatGPT conversation that you've pasted above.

I'll help you out:

Sources
You said:
here is a link to that post viewtopic.php?p=193368#p193368

Do you see that? That's giving chatGPT a standard internet link to a post on this forum. I didn't "past the text of that post here" as requested by chatGPT because I knew i shouldn't need to and, instead, i gave it a URL to browse to.... and, right, get this! chatGPT is connected to this thing called the "internet" which - and this'll blow your mind - is like loads of computers all connected together so they can see each other. Amazing i know. Almost like something out of a sci fi novel, innit?

Could it possibly be that this newfangled AI stuff could, wait for it, browse the internet and look at other websites? who'd have thought?!

Perhaps, as a change from being overly-sceptical of technology and deciding you don't like the cut of its gib so you'll criticise and avoid it, you could go and investigate its capabilities for yourself instead of making me have to go through this tedious process of explaining simple shit to you?

You need to chill Fuß. I’m getting worried about your blood pressure….

[FuB]

My blood pressure is fine, swamps, but thanks for your concern. Less thanks for your having derailed a perfectly good and interesting thread with your ill-informed self-indulgence, though.

There was much else to examine regarding AI than your implied personal rights.

[swampash]

'Perhaps, as a change from being overly-sceptical of technology and deciding you don't like the cut of its gib so you'll criticise and avoid it, you could go and investigate its capabilities for yourself instead of making me have to go through this tedious process of explaining simple shit to you?'.

What makes you think I'm generally sceptical about technology Fuß? Surely I can be sceptical about the sci-fi hype around AI without being overly-sceptical about technology in general? As for tediously explaining shit me - I'd respectfully point out that you stated the thread, so I think you have to expect that we lesser mortal might want you to help us understand what's going on; but no one's forcing you to explain shit to me if you don't want to and I'm sorry if you find dealing with me tedious.

Less thanks for your having derailed a perfectly good and interesting thread with your ill-informed self-indulgence, though.
There was much else to examine regarding AI than your implied personal rights.

As for my point about IP, I've already said I was exaggerating, via the alter-ego swampy-the-luddite, to make a more general point. I should also say that I was really taken aback when I first saw that you had used chatgpt to try and mimic me. Not knowing what the ID reference meant, I was immediately concerned that you might have given it access to my account and any private data that it might contain, such as my email address. I can see now that it was also just a copy and paste exercise but didn't clock that at the time. I'm probably a bit oversensitive to this at the moment, having recently been on the receiving end of a very elaborate AI generated scam where someone attempted to extract money from me by by mimicking, very convincingly, a very good friend. Sorry for the misunderstanding on my side, which could have been avoided if you'd told me up front what you were going to do.

[FuB]

'Perhaps, as a change from being overly-sceptical of technology and deciding you don't like the cut of its gib so you'll criticise and avoid it, you could go and investigate its capabilities for yourself instead of making me have to go through this tedious process of explaining simple shit to you?'.

What makes you think I'm generally sceptical about technology Fuß? Surely I can be sceptical about the sci-fi hype around AI without being overly-sceptical about technology in general? As for tediously explaining shit me - I'd respectfully point out that you stated the thread, so I think you have to expect that we lesser mortal might want you to help us understand what's going on; but no one's forcing you to explain shit to me if you don't want to and I'm sorry if you find dealing with me tedious.

Less thanks for your having derailed a perfectly good and interesting thread with your ill-informed self-indulgence, though.
There was much else to examine regarding AI than your implied personal rights.

As for my point about IP, I've already said I was exaggerating, via the alter-ego swampy-the-luddite, to make a more general point. I should also say that I was really taken aback when I first saw that you had used chatgpt to try and mimic me. Not knowing what the ID reference meant, I was immediately concerned that you might have given it access to my account and any private data that it might contain, such as my email address. I can see now that it was also just a copy and paste exercise but didn't clock that at the time. I'm probably a bit oversensitive to this at the moment, having recently been on the receiving end of a very elaborate AI generated scam where someone attempted to extract money from me by by mimicking, very convincingly, a very good friend. Sorry for the misunderstanding on my side, which could have been avoided if you'd told me up front what you were going to do.

I'm just talking about the last 3 or 4 message exchange which I found particularly tedious - and you've just hit on why, i.e. it was immediately clear to me that you were jumping to ridiculous conclusions about what i'd done yet, had you actually read the exchange with chatGPT carefully, it was more than obvious that i'd just pointed it at a single post (which, actually, was MY post). I mean, i pasted the ENTIRE conversation verbatim so how you came some silly conclusion that i must have given personal details away (i never would anyway) is sort of lost on me. I would have been more interested in examining why chatGPT's "mimicking" of you was just total bollocks and based on nothing more than that single post... but the moment is long since past.

I'm sorry you were - i infer nearly from your context there - scammed. Are you able to detail what happened, how AI was involved, etc. without giving away any personal information?

[swampash]

At the risk of outing myself as an IT illiterate, I mistook what chatgpt was asking to have access to. The 'ID' prefix to what it was asking for access to threw me.
I suggest we draw a line under this now. At the end of the day you and I have never really had any beef with each other.
I'll PM you with a brief explanation of the attempted AI generated scam.