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Just fuck off lads.

In fact, that's not fair. Fuck off to the string of inept, corrupt cunts running the show who continually see fit to saddle us with shite like this.

And we paid 50m for Fred.

The ineptitude running through this club is scandalous.

They can all just fuck off tbh. I've had enough now. Its beyond depressing.
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To add to that this is Freds fourth season ffs. He's played under 5 managers n all and none of them have got rid. I can't believe all those managers rated him. Someone, probably Ed, was deciding to keep him on.
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Sid wrote: 4 months ago To add to that this is Freds fourth season ffs. He's played under 5 managers n all and none of them have got rid. I can't believe all those managers rated him. Someone, probably Ed, was deciding to keep him on.
The managers are choosing to play them over van de Beek and the others. The manager is also choosing not to sell the likes of van de Beek if he's not needed.

The window is still open but it looks like McFred and van de Beek will outlast ten hag. What's he doing differently?

Guardiola gave players no clean slates. He threw everyone out starting with the goalkeeper which surprised many because Joe hart was highly rated at the time.
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dozer wrote: 4 months ago
Sid wrote: 4 months ago To add to that this is Freds fourth season ffs. He's played under 5 managers n all and none of them have got rid. I can't believe all those managers rated him. Someone, probably Ed, was deciding to keep him on.
The managers are choosing to play them over van de Beek and the others. The manager is also choosing not to sell the likes of van de Beek if he's not needed.

The window is still open but it looks like McFred and van de Beek will outlast ten hag. What's he doing differently?

Guardiola gave players no clean slates. He threw everyone out starting with the goalkeeper which surprised many because Joe hart was highly rated at the time.
City made it very clear that they would buy and sell whoever Guardiola wanted them to. United’s managers obviously don’t have anything like that amount of support. The people running United have shown that they’re incompetent and buying as well as selling players anyway.
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bman2 wrote: 4 months ago
dozer wrote: 4 months ago
Sid wrote: 4 months ago To add to that this is Freds fourth season ffs. He's played under 5 managers n all and none of them have got rid. I can't believe all those managers rated him. Someone, probably Ed, was deciding to keep him on.
The managers are choosing to play them over van de Beek and the others. The manager is also choosing not to sell the likes of van de Beek if he's not needed.

The window is still open but it looks like McFred and van de Beek will outlast ten hag. What's he doing differently?

Guardiola gave players no clean slates. He threw everyone out starting with the goalkeeper which surprised many because Joe hart was highly rated at the time.
City made it very clear that they would buy and sell whoever Guardiola wanted them to. United’s managers obviously don’t have anything like that amount of support. The people running United have shown that they’re incompetent and buying as well as selling players anyway.
You're probably right but sadly this means ten hag will most likely fail and will rightly be given the boot like his predecessors.
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I feel sorry for both Fred and McT tbf. In a normally run team they would've been reserves or moved on. 10 games a season to rest the good players.

Only really since last season that McT looks infected with the can't-be-arsed attitude that so many others have. Fred's a tryer but is the only brazillian above League 2 level that can't control a 10 yard pass.

At least Casemiro means we'll see less of them.
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Fred plays alongside casemiro for Brazil right? It's possible that he will continue to start for us.

Im still not sure if the midfield will be Eriksen, Casemiro, Bruno or Fred, Casemiro and Eriksen.
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dozer wrote: 3 months ago Fred plays alongside casemiro for Brazil right? It's possible that he will continue to start for us.

Im still not sure if the midfield will be Eriksen, Casemiro, Bruno or Fred, Casemiro and Eriksen.
Bruno is a nailed on starter. ETH has tried to use Eriksen as his FDJ so far but it’s not been working so he might try what worked last year for Ajax where he had a DM and two number 8s. Fred and Bruno are probably the best options but Eriksen might be brought in to get more control in games.
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Does Bruno fit into Hag's system? He's a pure flair player that always tries the risky pass. I think he'd be better off in a solid defensive team where he can afford to give the ball away a lot.
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Sid wrote: 3 months ago Does Bruno fit into Hag's system? He's a pure flair player that always tries the risky pass. I think he'd be better off in a solid defensive team where he can afford to give the ball away a lot.
Bruno gives the ball away a lot because he's got the license to try that risky pass every time he gets the ball. This is also why he creates the most chances, not just amongst United players but in the league.

If we dominate games he should be easily be able to adapt since we'll have a lot more opportunities to score. He's a top passer so if he chooses to keep possession he easily can.

Hag's system isn't visible yet. We're still struggling so I can understand why Bruno gives his all trying to create chances at every opportunity.
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