Unrealistic summer transfer wankfest III

[dozer]

Man city signed a winger for around 21m, rising upto 33m in bonuses. He was part of the Brazil copa squad and played . We're here celebrating Ineos' brilliant negotiations for players who either dont make the Euro squad or don't play after spending 50-60m or breaking release clauses.

Hopefully omar berrada hires some of city's negotiators.

Low effort at trolling even for you dozer.

Or did you not know that city have "bought" him from of their own clubs?

They can set the price to whatever they want. Keep it low and stay within psr rules.

What is your problem with ineos? We fucking gazumped Madrid to a player, who if lives up to potential we are laughing.

How about you give him some time before bringing the doom and gloom. Try being an optimist for once, else just wait for a year or 2, and when yoro fails to live up to the hype, you can lord it over us.

Fair enough. I wasn't aware of their city links.
What did I say that was so anti Ineos?
All I've stated is that they're paying prices like how we did during the Woodward era for players - which is true.
They're buying differently, or have so far, by not buying players that are too old or galacticos. It's just been 2 players but it looks like this is their strategy.
So I've not criticised Ineos at all.

[Felwin]

Man city signed a winger for around 21m, rising upto 33m in bonuses. He was part of the Brazil copa squad and played . We're here celebrating Ineos' brilliant negotiations for players who either dont make the Euro squad or don't play after spending 50-60m or breaking release clauses.

Hopefully omar berrada hires some of city's negotiators.

Low effort at trolling even for you dozer.

Or did you not know that city have "bought" him from of their own clubs?

They can set the price to whatever they want. Keep it low and stay within psr rules.

What is your problem with ineos? We fucking gazumped Madrid to a player, who if lives up to potential we are laughing.

How about you give him some time before bringing the doom and gloom. Try being an optimist for once, else just wait for a year or 2, and when yoro fails to live up to the hype, you can lord it over us.

Fair enough. I wasn't aware of their city links.
What did I say that was so anti Ineos?
All I've stated is that they're paying prices like how we did during the Woodward era for players - which is true.
They're buying differently, or have so far, by not buying players that are too old or galacticos. It's just been 2 players but it looks like this is their strategy.
So I've not criticised Ineos at all.

Ah come on Dozer. Don’t try and roll back on your trolling now like you haven’t been heavily insinuating that the new regime is just as bad as the old one.

Like Jason says, it’s all unnecessary doom and gloom so you can say “told you so” when it doesn’t work out. Because that’s the thing with football, it’s fucking hard to get right unless you have infinite resources, and even then it’s no guarantee. So the likelihood is we won’t be a fantastic footballing side in a few years because not many teams are.

If you want to criticise, criticise Ratcliffe on his comments on the women’s team, or why he, like Dyson and a few other chancers, supported Brexit only to move his domestic assets offshore. Or how Ineos does a Nestle and corners the resources of poor countries for itself, destroying the local environment in the process. Or if you only want to criticise their actions in the transfer market then are we sure De Ligtnisnt crocked? And why aren’t we interested in more midfielders? And why is Sancho seemingly back in the fold?

All valid criticism that goes beyond “I think we’re paying too much so it must be the same as Woodward”

[dozer]

Man city signed a winger for around 21m, rising upto 33m in bonuses. He was part of the Brazil copa squad and played . We're here celebrating Ineos' brilliant negotiations for players who either dont make the Euro squad or don't play after spending 50-60m or breaking release clauses.

Hopefully omar berrada hires some of city's negotiators.

Low effort at trolling even for you dozer.

Or did you not know that city have "bought" him from of their own clubs?

They can set the price to whatever they want. Keep it low and stay within psr rules.

What is your problem with ineos? We fucking gazumped Madrid to a player, who if lives up to potential we are laughing.

How about you give him some time before bringing the doom and gloom. Try being an optimist for once, else just wait for a year or 2, and when yoro fails to live up to the hype, you can lord it over us.

Fair enough. I wasn't aware of their city links.
What did I say that was so anti Ineos?
All I've stated is that they're paying prices like how we did during the Woodward era for players - which is true.
They're buying differently, or have so far, by not buying players that are too old or galacticos. It's just been 2 players but it looks like this is their strategy.
So I've not criticised Ineos at all.

Ah come on Dozer. Don’t try and roll back on your trolling now like you haven’t been heavily insinuating that the new regime is just as bad as the old one.

Like Jason says, it’s all unnecessary doom and gloom so you can say “told you so” when it doesn’t work out. Because that’s the thing with football, it’s fucking hard to get right unless you have infinite resources, and even then it’s no guarantee. So the likelihood is we won’t be a fantastic footballing side in a few years because not many teams are.

If you want to criticise, criticise Ratcliffe on his comments on the women’s team, or why he, like Dyson and a few other chancers, supported Brexit only to move his domestic assets offshore. Or how Ineos does a Nestle and corners the resources of poor countries for itself, destroying the local environment in the process. Or if you only want to criticise their actions in the transfer market then are we sure De Ligtnisnt crocked? And why aren’t we interested in more midfielders? And why is Sancho seemingly back in the fold?

All valid criticism that goes beyond “I think we’re paying too much so it must be the same as Woodward”

I didn't say "I told you so" did I? I brought it up immediately when something was happening without the power of hindsight.
When Ineos was spending a lot of money to buy players, I said they're doing just that. Can we say that Woodward would have spent even more for the same players? No.
It's possible that Woodward wouldn't even have bought the same players, but that's a different point and I didn't' criticise Ineos for that.

I also said it looks like Ten Hag is still the DoF because at the time, we were linked to only Dutch players in Zirkzee and Delight, and Dutch staff. The exception now is Yoro.
If Ten Hag is identifying targets then it's perfectly reasonable to point out that it looks similar to the Woodward era.

I was very specific in my skepticism of Ineos, which was purely on merit. I didn't make vague criticisms.
I didn't categorically call them shit and compare them to Woodward. I brought up those specific points as and when it happened and I said that things weren't too different.
How is that not valid?

I did bring up the Delight being crocked thing. Also, the last 2 big clubs he was at tried to get rid of him so he's definitely not done well.
And I've definitely complained about Sancho lol. It's too early to criticise Ineos, but by the end of the window, if we haven't gotten rid of Sancho, Antony and Pellistri, then they've done poorly there.
I don't follow Ratcliffe or Ineos outside of football to make comments about the rest of the stuff you mentioned.

[fat maradona]

Just do what I do and skim dozer's posts lads, it's easier not to get wound up by the trolling.

If Dozer fell out of a plane and into a lake full of tits and pussy, he'd still moan about something. Not enough cock maybe, I don't know.....

[swampash]

Is Maguire still on our books?

[fat maradona]

In United news though, this has got to be one of the best transfer windows by United standards in fucking years. We look like we are actively getting rid of unwanted players and have more than one option for replacements. Our signings look good, our targets look good. We don't look like we are paying the United tax (so far). Yoro is expensive for an 18 year old with just 60 games at first team level but didn't Real agree to pay €60m for Endrick? He's supposed to be a generational talent.

Getting rid of McT and replacing him with Ugarte looks like sound business. Bringing Toney in to give us 3 proper strikers sounds like good business.

[Fuck the Glazers]

In United news though, this has got to be one of the best transfer windows by United standards in fucking years. We look like we are actively getting rid of unwanted players and have more than one option for replacements. Our signings look good, our targets look good. We don't look like we are paying the United tax (so far). Yoro is expensive for an 18 year old with just 60 games at first team level but didn't Real agree to pay €60m for Endrick? He's supposed to be a generational talent.

Getting rid of McT and replacing him with Ugarte looks like sound business. Bringing Toney in to give us 3 proper strikers sounds like good business.

There are definite positive signs that the culture is changing. I was sceptical given that we were linked to dutch players still, and signed a couple of dutch coaches.

But the Yoro signing is decent and price is decent. Overall cost matters more than the transfer fee these days, and when you include the latter plus Yoros wages, he's costing us less than Varane did a year. So that's good business.

Also it looks like we're focussed on getting rid of players, and we're getting a bit more dosh for em than previously too.

You can clearly see that the goal is to get the overall costs down (job cuts, player sales) while improving the quality of the squad.

[dozer]

https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/s/vL3nyzA3e7

Ten hags interview is translated is in the comments. Thime interview was direct as fuck lol.

[Fuck the Glazers]

https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/s/vL3nyzA3e7

Ten hags interview is translated is in the comments. Thime interview was direct as fuck lol.

Decent interview.

I didn't know that we've hired a new doctor and head of physiotherapy. Thank fucking god, after all the injuries last season.

We're seeing proper root and branch change. Nearly everyone is new. Tbf the old guard underperformed right across the board. Anybody appointed by a Glazer stooge aka Woodward and Arnold should be considered for the axe, cos those two clowns knew fuck all about football and expertise.

I can see the sense in keeping Hag in that there's some consistency with the manager at least. It's all gonna take some time to bed in. Imagine the equivalent happening at your work.

[dozer]

Does nobody want Rashford? He was linked with PSG. I'd take a swap deal for Ugarte.