Ratcliffe, INEOS and the future

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Fuck the Glazers wrote: 1 month ago
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JoelfuckingGlazer wrote: 1 month ago There's a new perch in town....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/68363156
In today's world, you could easily dismiss the sort of thing he says as spin but there's something behind his eyes that tells me he really means what he is saying. I like the fact he's refusing to promise anything but is very clearly aligned to what any other fan would think of the state of things.
Aye, all these shitbloke owners like Boehly and Mansour say they're diehard fans, and it's bollocks. But with Ratcliffe it feels legit. He has the same beliefs and attitudes as us, so he must have been following the club properly for decades the way we have.

He recognises the issues; the lack of communication with fans (he addressed fans & MUST weeks ago), the lack of expertise & competence, the fact we've had top managers and they've all failed cos the environment is the main issue.

Whether that translates to being a good owner, fuck knows. But right now on big issues like appointing a completely new backroom team and rebuilding Old Trafford (his preferred option by the looks of it), I'd rather have a fan leading it than neolib yank business owners in Florida.
Everyone knows these are the issues tbf. Communication with the fans. Don't overdo it but the Glazers and their staff didn't communicate at all. Lack of expertise was obvious. The club didn't hire best in class. The stadium and the club being an integral part of the community etc. If he pulls this off he's not doing anything special. This is basic stuff. The Glazers sacked themselves basically. They knew they fucked it up albeit so late rand they pulled the trigger on themselves.
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dozer wrote: 1 month ago
Fuck the Glazers wrote: 1 month ago
FuB wrote: 1 month ago
JoelfuckingGlazer wrote: 1 month ago There's a new perch in town....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/68363156
In today's world, you could easily dismiss the sort of thing he says as spin but there's something behind his eyes that tells me he really means what he is saying. I like the fact he's refusing to promise anything but is very clearly aligned to what any other fan would think of the state of things.
Aye, all these shitbloke owners like Boehly and Mansour say they're diehard fans, and it's bollocks. But with Ratcliffe it feels legit. He has the same beliefs and attitudes as us, so he must have been following the club properly for decades the way we have.

He recognises the issues; the lack of communication with fans (he addressed fans & MUST weeks ago), the lack of expertise & competence, the fact we've had top managers and they've all failed cos the environment is the main issue.

Whether that translates to being a good owner, fuck knows. But right now on big issues like appointing a completely new backroom team and rebuilding Old Trafford (his preferred option by the looks of it), I'd rather have a fan leading it than neolib yank business owners in Florida.
Everyone knows these are the issues tbf. Communication with the fans. Don't overdo it but the Glazers and their staff didn't communicate at all. Lack of expertise was obvious. The club didn't hire best in class. The stadium and the club being an integral part of the community etc. If he pulls this off he's not doing anything special. This is basic stuff. The Glazers sacked themselves basically. They knew they fucked it up albeit so late rand they pulled the trigger on themselves.
It's obvious and basic yet so many owners fail to see it - especially in the Prem. It's a major issue in English football. This stuff should be mandatory before anybody is allowed to buy a club.

If we've got people that understand these basics, and can also run a football club (a specific skill), then we'll outperform many other clubs even if they have advantages like more money.
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dozer wrote: 1 month ago
So he's clearing the debt?? That's massive
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Presumably not a charitable donation? Is he replacing the bank debt with personal debt at a better-for-United rate?
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He could have cleared the credit card. I think there was about 150m of outstanding transfer fees on there. That means we'd have the full 300m on the credit card to spend again, FFP depending like. It would also improve our FFP position.

It would represent breaking free from some of the chains the Glazers put on the club. Pretty fucking good tbf.

If we get CL football, we might be in a strong position. We need Kieran Maguire to look into it.
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Fuck the Glazers wrote: 4 weeks ago He could have cleared the credit card. I think there was about 150m of outstanding transfer fees on there. That means we'd have the full 300m on the credit card to spend again, FFP depending like. It would also improve our FFP position.

It would represent breaking free from some of the chains the Glazers put on the club. Pretty fucking good tbf.

If we get CL football, we might be in a strong position. We need Kieran Maguire to look into it.
Spurs being spurs might help us, beat today vs Fulham, so 6 points (really 7 with the gd) with 10 games is a big ask.

Brentford away, Chelsea away and Liverpool home.

We probably need 7 points from that run and we might have a shot at 5th.
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It's related to United, but it's also just fucked

Two thirds of EFL clubs are set to go bust. They're all spending mega money to reach the Prem. So the gov via the indepedent regulator (which is nearly here) is demanding Prem clubs hand over some of their vast riches to stop the pyramid from collapsing

But most Prem clubs are loss making, so some are gonna have to borrow money to do it - including United most probably :))

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... l-with-efl
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Fuck the Glazers wrote: 3 weeks ago It's related to United, but it's also just fucked

Two thirds of EFL clubs are set to go bust. They're all spending mega money to reach the Prem. So the gov via the indepedent regulator (which is nearly here) is demanding Prem clubs hand over some of their vast riches to stop the pyramid from collapsing

But most Prem clubs are loss making, so some are gonna have to borrow money to do it - including United most probably :))

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... l-with-efl
It mirrors society doesn't it? The debt bubble is expanding everywhere, and it just widens the divide between the 1% and everyone else.
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JoelfuckingGlazer wrote: 3 weeks ago
Fuck the Glazers wrote: 3 weeks ago It's related to United, but it's also just fucked

Two thirds of EFL clubs are set to go bust. They're all spending mega money to reach the Prem. So the gov via the indepedent regulator (which is nearly here) is demanding Prem clubs hand over some of their vast riches to stop the pyramid from collapsing

But most Prem clubs are loss making, so some are gonna have to borrow money to do it - including United most probably :))

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... l-with-efl
It mirrors society doesn't it? The debt bubble is expanding everywhere, and it just widens the divide between the 1% and everyone else.
Exactly, allow those that can't afford it to go into debt rather than the leeches at the top of society give up a fraction of their wealth.

City's owners alone could save every EFL club and it'd be nothing more painful than a bad day at the bookies. Not saying the onus is on them but when Prem clubs already in debt are going to be taking out bank loans to save football rather than the owners of said clubs footing the bill, then we know the independent regulator was worth sod all.
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